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Poszkodowany / Victim: ???

Sprawca / Perp: FNR Sir 

Okrążenie / Lap: Cały wyścig / Whole race

Opis incydentu / Incident description: Nasz przesympatyczny przyjaciel przez cały wyścig miał problem z utrzymaniem się w torze, raz tnąc, raz jadąc całą szerokością. Począwszy od nawrotu, poprzez drugą szykanę, po ostatnie zakręty. Sytuacja powtarzała się przez cały wyścig, zmieniały się jedynie miejsca.

FNR Sir have struggled with keeping his car inside track limits. Cutting corners, going too wide kept repeating every lap. Mate, maybe you have pace but there is no place for driving like this. Everybody sometimes goes too wide or cut a little bit, but you didnt seem to worry about it at all.

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11 hours ago, KubaXman said:

Poszkodowany / Victim: ???

Sprawca / Perp: FNR Sir 

Okrążenie / Lap: Cały wyścig / Whole race

Opis incydentu / Incident description: Nasz przesympatyczny przyjaciel przez cały wyścig miał problem z utrzymaniem się w torze, raz tnąc, raz jadąc całą szerokością. Począwszy od nawrotu, poprzez drugą szykanę, po ostatnie zakręty. Sytuacja powtarzała się przez cały wyścig, zmieniały się jedynie miejsca.

FNR Sir have struggled with keeping his car inside track limits. Cutting corners, going too wide kept repeating every lap. Mate, maybe you have pace but there is no place for driving like this. Everybody sometimes goes too wide or cut a little bit, but you didnt seem to worry about it at all.

Dude...do I really have to make the clip of your replay too? You cut every now and then, lozio did, nova did, adi did...If you really want this, I have to make the clips where everybody cuts. That is no problem for me, i will do it.
I will also show you how I release the gas trigger when I accidently cut, so that I don't gain vantage.

I don't think we should bring this up, because it was a fantastic race, and i have to say, when you cut because you lock wheels or because you drift...you lose from 0.2 up to 0.4 sec.
 I didn't really want to make all the clips where everybody cuts, bot since you brought this up, now I have, and that's annoying


You should have talked to me first.

Edytowane przez Sergio Martemucci

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I confirm everything that Sergio said. All those around me came out in all the corners, I myself in 23 laps in some corner I was wrong. But as you could see from my time, I was wasting time. Not to attack anyone, but I had near Damoto, Sony and Adi. I saw them very far from the track.

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3 godziny temu, Sergio Martemucci napisał:

there was really nothing to say...i wouldn't have brought this up in the first place

 

Of course there wasn't. Let me show you something. These are photos only from one lap, when you went into gravel and was trying to catch me as fast as possible. ;)

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And no, you didn't lift throttle at all. Lucky for you, my replay ends after about 15 laps or something like this, but I managed to take 26 pictures showing your clean style of driving. Do you want to see them all?

I don't care about results, penalties, etc. because I'm driving just for pure fun. Everybody sometimes goes too wide or cut a little, but there is difference beetwen sometimes and very often. But it is not funny anymore when somebody do not respect any rules. I have been driving in Forza since 2011 and I don't remember anybody complaining about me. As opposed to you.

 

 

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5 godzin temu, Danilo Madia napisał:

I confirm everything that Sergio said. All those around me came out in all the corners, I myself in 23 laps in some corner I was wrong. But as you could see from my time, I was wasting time. Not to attack anyone, but I had near Damoto, Sony and Adi. I saw them very far from the track.

The topic does not concern me directly, but it also hits me. I try to go honestly, and there are crooks who cheat like Sir. It's not fair. We drove in the same race, so if you [Sir] could drive clear and fair, then your positions will be lower. I waiting for new system from Turn10 with penalties for disregarding track limits.

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6 hours ago, KubaXman said:

Of course there wasn't. Let me show you something. These are photos only from one lap, when you went into gravel and was trying to catch me as fast as possible. ;)

HWy3g3Q.jpg

ifRrxzy.jpg

 

iETD8pv.jpg

1iQdaA5.jpg

TezCJPX.jpg

A9I0Poc.jpg

And no, you didn't lift throttle at all. Lucky for you, my replay ends after about 15 laps or something like this, but I managed to take 26 pictures showing your clean style of driving. Do you want to see them all?

I don't care about results, penalties, etc. because I'm driving just for pure fun. Everybody sometimes goes too wide or cut a little, but there is difference beetwen sometimes and very often. But it is not funny anymore when somebody do not respect any rules. I have been driving in Forza since 2011 and I don't remember anybody complaining about me. As opposed to you.

 

 

It is quite funny that you put pictures instead of videos. I am collecting the videos, so that you can see. I did make some mistakes, but, you see, the difference between making mistakes and cutting on purpose is that a mistake makes you loose time. When i got out of track in these pictures, i made a horrible lap, and a certain moment is very clear because you get closer by 15 meters or so.

i whatched your video and i have to pay my compliments to you because you drive veryvery clean, but on the other hand, you never drive to the limit, and that's why you were slower. I did make mistakes, but it was because i was driving to the limit, and that is very different from cutting corners like cheating.

i am going to send the video tonight

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This is just a clip to show you what I do if i make a mistake and i gain a little vantage. 
I will also show you all the clips of all you guys going off the track and cutting...some people did it sistematically every single lap, and i am sorry if I had to do that (it is 52 clips, it took me all yesteraday's evening), if it was for me i wouldn't have done anything, but I had to.
Because it is really suspicious (to say the least) that in catalunya (when i ended 11th), nobody had anything to say to my driving. 
Anyway, this is what I do if i make a mistake and gain vantage
 

 

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I ask you to watch from minute 55.30 and pay attention to the sistematic cut that happens...without any slowing down...

http://www.twitch.tv/fnr_channel/v/332900056?sr=a&t=1470s

I will post other videos later in the afternoon.
Sorry guys, i did not mean to do that..my position is that no action should be taken at all. But if one gets penalty, then i demand that everyone gets checked and penalised.

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2 godziny temu, Sergio Martemucci napisał:

I ask you to watch from minute 55.30 and pay attention to the sistematic cut that happens...without any slowing down...

http://www.twitch.tv/fnr_channel/v/332900056?sr=a&t=1470s

I will post other videos later in the afternoon.
Sorry guys, i did not mean to do that..my position is that no action should be taken at all. But if one gets penalty, then i demand that everyone gets checked and penalised.

Mate, I'm not saying you were the only one. Unfortunately I was close to you, so I was able to see it. Everyone who didn't respect track limits should be dealt with. 

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The point is that i slowed down when made mistakes, so I didn't gain any advantage, and that should at least count something..
That aside, i accept everything that the judges decide, but I have to point out that everyone did the same thing..if not worse.

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Ok guys this is my last comment on the subject. I have collected these videos from the race. It is not all because I have a life, and this has taken me WAAAAAAYY too much time.
Before you watch the clips i want to state my opinion:

I wouldn't give penalty to anyone, because from watching over and over the videos, I am sure that NOBODY had a real advantage by cutting the corners, and those who did...well...they ended up in not good places, so who was slow, even with the cuts...remained slow.

There is a difference though, between who cut corners after mistakes (like me, novarossi and benito), and slowed down on purpose after gaining secs...and who has REPEATEDLY and CONSTANTLY cut at every single lap (not just the first, with cold tyres).

You watch for yourself.
 

 

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You can not expect the PMC to go clean in the race. I return to Forza, when T10 introduces a system of penalties for such a ride. Otherwise, there is no point in going after it.

I understand that everyone will break the track limit three times, but not 10 or 15 times. This is ridiculous. The F1 series from Codemsters already in 2010 had a system that after three sharp cuts was DSQ in the race.

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I hope that too, even if that will surely be a problem for me, because I always try to drive to my limits, and not always i manage to stay on track. I have to say though, that now the situation is the one we know, so we need to take this matter in our own hands.
Even if you don't get dsq, there are other games that automatically drop 2 or 3 seconds to your final time, and that would be great as well.
As a community, we should really get in contact with t10 to let them know that we are a lot, and we want our favourite racing game to become the PERFECT racing game, which now it is not.
I will write an email and tell them so, once again, and hopefully they will listen.
That said, "imperator360" we are all behind a screen, and it would be really easy to loose ourself in insults and stuff like that, but it would be very very laim and only a coward would do that.
I could call you crook or cheater or whatever, but i prefer not to, or i just keep it for the moment we will see each other face to face...in the real world, where you take responsibility for what you say.
Peace

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11 hours ago, Imperator360 said:

It sounds scary, I do not know what I'm going to do with myself now.

same story...you don't seem to understand, but I will try once more to explain to you.
What I meant was, show some respect, because insulting will take us nowhere.
I hope this time you get it

 

 

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